"The bottom line is, if my grandparents hadn't survived the hand that was dealt them, then I wouldn't be here. If they didn't have hope.... They had their children, and it was brave of them. They could have said, `No, no, no, no, no, I'm not bringing no children in this world!' . . . But they didn't. They said, we can do it. We'll be alright. We'll make it. And they fed them, and they bought them two pairs of shoes a year when they sold that tobacco, and they sent them to school...."